Waterford’s approach to dereliction has dramatically decreased the number of families living in emergency accommodation, and homelessness more generally. By utilising a rarely talked about scheme, derelict and vacant buildings are being transformed into social housing. So why can’t this happen everywhere else? We’re joined by Fine Gael Senator John Cummins to discuss this success story. Also, Andrea is not entering the metaverse any time soon, and Una is binging on D.A. Pennebaker documentaries.